Arguing with a hypocritical "intolerant facist" ignoramus.
It started with this comment he made and later he made another which caused the argument to shift. his first one:
It's interesting to observe how the Godless use foul and abusive language in print as a way of emphasising their annoyance, whereas Christians don't feel the need to retort in kind. The key here is self-control and decorum. This is testament to the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, the fruit of which Paul talks about in Galatians. Lack of self-control and foul language is the bane of society.
@vermentinu
its interesting how you put bad meaning to words and do so within the realm of theology and then use the meaning you put to our words to condescend us by implying we have no self control and basically say "hah you heathens have no verbal self control!" we dont try to avoid using words which are simply exclamations. we dont try to condescend people based on what words they use. we dont pretend to not be irritated by people who misrepresent and condescend us while displaying stupidity.
so you give negative meaning to words we say which you base out of your theology which we dont believe, basically attempting to make the rules and then condescend us and insult us subtley and elevate yourself under false pretense of your beliefs.
"hey you said turtle! silly turtlists, i believe its bad to say that word so it must be true so that means that youre below me because my beliefs dictate everybody elses standing that isnt in my group. you turtlists have no control!". lastly, i want to point out that your condescension and insults toward people who dont believe like you are the same as the "retorts" you speak of that we apparently use and you dont. notice how you call britain a "cesspit" and use words like "wormed their way" and are so narcissistic as to assume that its only to "destroy" YOUR beliefs with "wicked agenda" when youre so deluded that you fail to see they just want equal rights and safety from the persecution of YOU PEOPLE.
oh yeah one more thing. notice how you say they "wormed their way" to "destroy" with their "wicked agenda" and then you call THEM the intolerant facists. it seems to me that given your way, you would be the facist. yeah im sure they are just bullying christians all over the uk right? no they arent. but you justify your disgusting behaviour by saying "but its against god!" thats your belief, not theirs. and yet you still try to make them applicable to your beleifs. unbelieveable!
its interesting how you put bad meaning to words and do so within the realm of theology and then use the meaning you put to our words to condescend us by implying we have no self control and basically say "hah you heathens have no verbal self control!" we dont try to avoid using words which are simply exclamations. we dont try to condescend people based on what words they use. we dont pretend to not be irritated by people who misrepresent and condescend us while displaying stupidity.
so you give negative meaning to words we say which you base out of your theology which we dont believe, basically attempting to make the rules and then condescend us and insult us subtley and elevate yourself under false pretense of your beliefs.
"hey you said turtle! silly turtlists, i believe its bad to say that word so it must be true so that means that youre below me because my beliefs dictate everybody elses standing that isnt in my group. you turtlists have no control!". lastly, i want to point out that your condescension and insults toward people who dont believe like you are the same as the "retorts" you speak of that we apparently use and you dont. notice how you call britain a "cesspit" and use words like "wormed their way" and are so narcissistic as to assume that its only to "destroy" YOUR beliefs with "wicked agenda" when youre so deluded that you fail to see they just want equal rights and safety from the persecution of YOU PEOPLE.
oh yeah one more thing. notice how you say they "wormed their way" to "destroy" with their "wicked agenda" and then you call THEM the intolerant facists. it seems to me that given your way, you would be the facist. yeah im sure they are just bullying christians all over the uk right? no they arent. but you justify your disgusting behaviour by saying "but its against god!" thats your belief, not theirs. and yet you still try to make them applicable to your beleifs. unbelieveable!
@JustTrollinAlong
"we dont try to avoid using words which are simply exclamations."
That's because the Godless are selfish in this regard. Believe it or not, there are still people who don't like to hear swearing in public - it brutalises and cheapens society. Those who swear in print are very likely to do so in public. It is simply a question of not giving a damn about what other people think.
"we dont try to avoid using words which are simply exclamations."
That's because the Godless are selfish in this regard. Believe it or not, there are still people who don't like to hear swearing in public - it brutalises and cheapens society. Those who swear in print are very likely to do so in public. It is simply a question of not giving a damn about what other people think.
@vermentinu
oh really? am i likely to swear in public? because i swear on the internet? so i guess us godless heathens have no respect for other people simply because we said something on the internet, as if people dont act differently on the internet than in real life. if im around people who i know dont care, then yeah, i swear. and im not talking about just in public, the context of what i was talking about was in all respects because that was your meaning so way to strawman. youre avoiding
the point though. you said you dont retort with "foul language like us because you have self control" you fail to see that you retort even worse though by condescending and insulting those who dont do what you want and then call them "facists" and "foul language" isnt worse than being hypocritical and unfair and subjecting people outside your group to the rules of your group. im pretty sure "fuck" only bothers you because of your beliefs which you clearly imply. youre despicable.
and let me tell you why youre despicable. "those godless gays with their wicked agenda destroyed the uk christian system! those intolerant facists!" but clearly we can derive from this paraphrased quote that given your way, you wouldnt allow gays and you are intolerant of them and are narcissistic in that you think they are out to get you simply because they want equal rights. you sound like you would outlaw them and it was that way. id say thats more facist than wantin equal rights.
oh really? am i likely to swear in public? because i swear on the internet? so i guess us godless heathens have no respect for other people simply because we said something on the internet, as if people dont act differently on the internet than in real life. if im around people who i know dont care, then yeah, i swear. and im not talking about just in public, the context of what i was talking about was in all respects because that was your meaning so way to strawman. youre avoiding
the point though. you said you dont retort with "foul language like us because you have self control" you fail to see that you retort even worse though by condescending and insulting those who dont do what you want and then call them "facists" and "foul language" isnt worse than being hypocritical and unfair and subjecting people outside your group to the rules of your group. im pretty sure "fuck" only bothers you because of your beliefs which you clearly imply. youre despicable.
and let me tell you why youre despicable. "those godless gays with their wicked agenda destroyed the uk christian system! those intolerant facists!" but clearly we can derive from this paraphrased quote that given your way, you wouldnt allow gays and you are intolerant of them and are narcissistic in that you think they are out to get you simply because they want equal rights. you sound like you would outlaw them and it was that way. id say thats more facist than wantin equal rights.
@JustTrollinAlong
"you sound like you would outlaw them..."
Clearly Christians don't all speak with the same voice on the topic of LGBT rights, so MY personal opinion only is that Britain had the balance about right in the 1950's, and that homosexuality should not have been decriminalised in 1967. However, what is clear from numerous testimonies from ex-homosexuals is how God changed them when they become convicted of their sin. Jesus never leaves them tormented in their iniquity.
"you sound like you would outlaw them..."
Clearly Christians don't all speak with the same voice on the topic of LGBT rights, so MY personal opinion only is that Britain had the balance about right in the 1950's, and that homosexuality should not have been decriminalised in 1967. However, what is clear from numerous testimonies from ex-homosexuals is how God changed them when they become convicted of their sin. Jesus never leaves them tormented in their iniquity.
@vermentinu
ROFL THANKS FOR PROVING ME RIGHT you want it criminalized but you call them the intolderant facists and then you attempt to justify it by saying "but there are ex homos who said god made them better!" yeah well THEY ARE IN YOUR GROUP! you give no evidence of any such thing occurring and you justify YOUR facism by saying some of the people from the group your persecuting were better when they joined your group! but the ones that suicide because you tell them theyre evil dont matter! oh and "jesus never leaves the tormented in their inequity" BULLSHIT! what about the christian missionaries that are out converting people int third world countries? the people in aids infested parts of africa that turn to jesus but dont use condoms because the missionaries told them "its for carnal pleasure which is sinful" so the aids continues to spread easily. theyre starving and dying and they have "jesus" but they sure are being tormented by inequity!
ROFL THANKS FOR PROVING ME RIGHT you want it criminalized but you call them the intolderant facists and then you attempt to justify it by saying "but there are ex homos who said god made them better!" yeah well THEY ARE IN YOUR GROUP! you give no evidence of any such thing occurring and you justify YOUR facism by saying some of the people from the group your persecuting were better when they joined your group! but the ones that suicide because you tell them theyre evil dont matter! oh and "jesus never leaves the tormented in their inequity" BULLSHIT! what about the christian missionaries that are out converting people int third world countries? the people in aids infested parts of africa that turn to jesus but dont use condoms because the missionaries told them "its for carnal pleasure which is sinful" so the aids continues to spread easily. theyre starving and dying and they have "jesus" but they sure are being tormented by inequity!
@JustTrollinAlong
"but the ones that suicide because you tell them theyre evil dont matter!"
Who said anything about telling homosexuals that they are evil? 'for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God' (Romans 3:23). God's wrath against mankind is made clear in Romans 1:21-32. The first work of the Holy Spirit is the conviction of sin. It is an indisputable fact that once a homosexual is convicted of Sin the Holy Spirit works in their lives and changes them.
"but the ones that suicide because you tell them theyre evil dont matter!"
Who said anything about telling homosexuals that they are evil? 'for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God' (Romans 3:23). God's wrath against mankind is made clear in Romans 1:21-32. The first work of the Holy Spirit is the conviction of sin. It is an indisputable fact that once a homosexual is convicted of Sin the Holy Spirit works in their lives and changes them.
@vermentinu
gay camps that parents send their gay kids to. gay kids that made fun of for being gay. many of them have committed suicide and another large margin have been brainwashed to delude themselves into thinking that they arent actually gay and that its right to choose to be straight (if there is any choice to it). and again you judge them based on YOUR BELIEFS and act like youre the one in the right. they are still just beliefs. your beliefs give you no jurisdiction over others.
gay camps that parents send their gay kids to. gay kids that made fun of for being gay. many of them have committed suicide and another large margin have been brainwashed to delude themselves into thinking that they arent actually gay and that its right to choose to be straight (if there is any choice to it). and again you judge them based on YOUR BELIEFS and act like youre the one in the right. they are still just beliefs. your beliefs give you no jurisdiction over others.
@JustTrollinAlong
In the UK being gay is virtually compulsory! The point is that even a country like Britain where homosexuals have 'won', most people intuitively know it is unnatural, although it is illegal to say so. Children should have one father and one mother, not two fathers/mothers. The higher rate of suicides, depression and drug taking amongst homosexuals in the UK is not a result of the church, whose influence is negligible.
In the UK being gay is virtually compulsory! The point is that even a country like Britain where homosexuals have 'won', most people intuitively know it is unnatural, although it is illegal to say so. Children should have one father and one mother, not two fathers/mothers. The higher rate of suicides, depression and drug taking amongst homosexuals in the UK is not a result of the church, whose influence is negligible.
@JustTrollinAlong
"...and then you call THEM the intolerant facists"
There is proven historical correlation between homosexuality and fascism. I'm more than happy to debate this issue with you if you are minded to do so.
"...and then you call THEM the intolerant facists"
There is proven historical correlation between homosexuality and fascism. I'm more than happy to debate this issue with you if you are minded to do so.
@vermentinu LOL NO youre trying to avoid my point now. you didnt acknowledge my points. you said "but i can prove they are the facists!" are they in favor of criminalizing non gays? are they in favor of criminalizing those who do whats against their beliefs? oh wait they dont have a system if belief. are you doing the above two? YES. they arent persecuting the out group, YOU ARE! my point is that youre being a hypocrite by thinking the same way you accuse them of. AND YOU HAVE YET TO SEE THAT!
